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If you vote in favor of any bill with cuts to Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, or any program considered part of the social safety net then I will never vote for you. If Pres. Obama should sign such a bill into law then I will never vote for any Democrat until the cuts are restored. If such program cuts are made then I believe the the losses Democrats incurred in 2010 will be minor compared to the losses in 2014.

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  •  Tip Jar (6+ / 0-)

    Practice tolerance, kindness and charity.

    by LWelsch on Tue Dec 18, 2012 at 06:18:57 PM PST

  •  Unfortunately (3+ / 0-)
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    LWelsch, Chi, marty marty

    they have done the math and know that you, like me, will vote for them again as they are marginally better than the alternative.

  •  I Agree (2+ / 0-)
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    LWelsch, marty marty

    I plan on staying home and not voting in protest.  

    "Don't Let Them Catch You With Your Eyes Closed"

    by rssrai on Tue Dec 18, 2012 at 06:24:02 PM PST

    •  Yeah, that's worked out so well for us /nt (5+ / 0-)

      Handmade holiday gifts from Jan4insight on Zibbet. Get 10%off everytime with coupon code KOSSACK.

      by jan4insight on Tue Dec 18, 2012 at 06:28:00 PM PST

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      •  In the past (3+ / 0-)
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        Sunspots, marty marty, blueoasis

        Not only have I voted for Democrats, but, I have supported Democrats with money as well as door to door campaigning and campaigning on the telephone. This has worked so well that Democrats are now willing to cut programs that do not need to be cut. Not only that but cutting those programs will hurt me personally. Worse, cutting social safety net programs will hurt the nation today and in the future. I will not vote for a party that harms our nation be that party the Democratic Party or the Republican party.

        Practice tolerance, kindness and charity.

        by LWelsch on Tue Dec 18, 2012 at 06:44:53 PM PST

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    •  That's a great idea (1+ / 0-)
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      Then next time around, instead of just a chained CPI we get a raise in the Medicare age if we are lucky, conversion of Medicare to a voucher program if we're not. Real smart.

      •  Slow death or rapid death (2+ / 0-)
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        Sunspots, marty marty

        That is the question. I believe that if Republicans had been elected 2012 then the country would have been headed towards a rapid disaster. Today we are headed towards a slow decline. Following the disaster there might have been real change.

        Practice tolerance, kindness and charity.

        by LWelsch on Tue Dec 18, 2012 at 06:55:32 PM PST

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        •  Didn't happen in 2009 (0+ / 0-)

          Despite the worst recession since the 1930's you didn't see people clamoring for more social programs, sadly.

          •  I must have missed (1+ / 0-)
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            The extension of unemployment benefits; reducing the gap for senior drug benefits; reducing the payroll tax for low income workers; and the purpose of the stimulus law.

            In 2010 Republicans wisely ran away from the Ryan budget and worked hard to convince seniors that Democrats cut the Medicare program. It did not work then and it did not work in 2012. But, imagine Republicans running against cuts in the Medicare program in 2014. Yes, Republicans will lie repeatedly, but, the president will get the credit for the cuts in the party will suffer.

            Practice tolerance, kindness and charity.

            by LWelsch on Tue Dec 18, 2012 at 07:33:23 PM PST

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      •  Don't forget the annual raise in the Medicare Part (3+ / 0-)
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        LWelsch, Just Bob, blueoasis

        B fees, larger this year by precentage than the COLA adjustment. Without going another year, SS folk are already behind the eight ball, and likely to stay that way, since Mandatory Medicare is not included in the Chained CPI which is figured for much younger people, and it all by itself is demonstrating why the chained CPI is the wrong thing to do.

        •  Obama's administration took my Medicare (1+ / 0-)
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          monthly cost from $99.90 to $104.90 for each month in 2013.   That is a 5% increase in my payment. My supplemental from private insurance went from $194.75 to $206.25 for 2013. That is a 6% increase in my payment. Obana gave me a Social Security CPI of 1.7% a month which comes out to about 6.00 a month in SS after they take out my medicare payment before I get the Social Security and before I pay for my supplemental. And now Obama proposed a chained CPI so I can get less for life. You have to remember the first 2 years Obama was in office we got a big zero in CPI. Go figure!

          Yet the proposal for the top % making from $250,000 to $400,000 with retain their Bush tax cut. What is wrong with this picture?

          I know if this happens in the cliff process the rich will still be stealing from the elderly, handicapped and poor. If it happens I will never vote DEM or GOP for the rest of my life because you are all crooked and heartless. I have voted Dem since 1964 and am now 70. I even worked on Obama's first campaign. what a fool I was.

  •  You live in Maryland (1+ / 0-)
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    How much do Democrats really need you?

    [FTR, I'm in the same situation in NY. If I didn't vote Dem nobody would miss me]

    •  More than you realize (2+ / 0-)
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      Chi, blueoasis

      Not very long ago Maryland had a Republican governor. When I came to Maryland my district was represented by a Republican. Many of my friends and myself are pierced off at the way the districts were gerrymandered following the 2010 census.

      While many seniors in Maryland did vote Republican in the last election, I believe that many more seniors will vote Republican if there are cuts to Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid. I also believe that many healthcare professionals including doctors, nurses, nurse's aides, and health aides will not vote for Democrats if such cuts are made to Medicare and Medicaid.

      Practice tolerance, kindness and charity.

      by LWelsch on Tue Dec 18, 2012 at 06:51:19 PM PST

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    •  Move upstate. The Rs really need you there, and (0+ / 0-)

      so do the Dems.

  •  Obama is not facing re-relection. Only dems in (2+ / 0-)
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    blueoasis, DownstateDemocrat

    House and Senate, governor, etc. need to worry about re-election.  Obama will do harm to people - the poor, seniors, handicapped and the party that we elected.  Obama will reward the rich just what we voted against.  If you thought the 2010 election was bad - wait for 2014 or 2016.

  •  I see a repeat of 2010 coming (1+ / 0-)
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    in 2014!   Stupid, unnecessary.

    "The real wealth of a nation consists of the contributions of its people and nature." -- Rianne Eisler

    by noofsh on Wed Dec 19, 2012 at 04:59:36 AM PST

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